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The #1 podcast for crypto natives to learn about new concepts, trends and projects in blockchain, DeFi, NFTs and Web 3.

Jason Choi (@mrjasonchoi) goes deep into the technology and economics behind crypto projects to dissect trends and themes in a global context.

Strictly not financial advice.

Oct 4, 2022

*Apologies for the audio quality this week! Usual quality will resume in the next episode

DeFi has been accused of being propped up by unsustainable ponzis - can Ribbon be the solution?

Ribbon is a DeFi protocol that allows users access to crypto structured products. Till date, they reported over $10 billion in notional volume and claims to offer 24% on their ETH - despite being in a bear market.


Today, Ribbon’s Co-Founder Julian Koh shares with us:

  • How Ribbon generates yield
  • Building new products vs integrating with others
  • What is takes to revive DeFi
  • Potential regulations on crypto space


Host: Jason Choi @mrjasonchoi . Not financial advice.


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(00:00:00) – Introduction

(00:03:41) – Road to founding Ribbon

(00:07:34) – Primer on structured products

(00:11:31) – Risks of capital loss on Ribbon

(00:14:16) – Managing options with automated smart contracts

(00:16:00) – Preventing market makers from front-running

(00:19:42) – Types of Ribbon’s customers

(00:21:14) – Reasons for Ribbon’s success

(00:23:18) – New Ribbon products and plans

(00:31:55) – Is composability just a meme

(00:35:37) – Underwriting lending risks

(00:39:27) – Moving away from Opyn & building own exchange

(00:47:38) – Allowing DAOs to issue bonds

(00:51:50) – Primary drivers of future of DeFi

(00:58:26) – Potential regulations on crypto-space


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